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Кстати, в ЖЖ есть русскоязычное сообщество под названием aquaerotic. Присоединяйтесь!

Для Dunker

кстати сижу вот на этом сайте уже полдня вспоминаю вас ))
https://www.waterbondage.com/updates/full8.php

(Светкин @ 06.05.2006 - время: 21:23)Для Dunker

кстати  сижу вот на этом сайте уже полдня вспоминаю вас ))
https://www.waterbondage.com/updates/full8.php
Светкин, я знаю этот сайт, но всё равно спасибо, мне очень приятно, что вы обо мне вспоминаете

(allena @ 26.04.2006 - время: 17:22)*представляю себе ужас нижнего*
Если совсем серьезно, то увы, очень часто этот страх у женщин есть... С последней моей партнершей так получилось. Пару раз поиграли "на суше" - всё было хорошо. А как залезли в бассейн - "не могу, очень страшно" :(((

(Dunker @ 28.04.2006 - время: 20:39) Подсказали мне на НП ещё один важный момнет техники безопасности, который я сначала упустил, потому что сам так не делаю. Нельзя погружать партнера, резко дергая его за ногу. Сочетание погружения и сильного испуга тоже может привести к белому утоплению.
При резком дёргании за ноги если при этом под воду уходит голова, даже если партнр ожидает подобное, вода попадает в нос и носоглотку при этом рефлекторно делается вдох ртом что усугубляет ситуацию. В Питере был серийный убийца который подобным методом топил женщин в ванной резко дёргая за ноги когда те принимали ванну, понять что произошло убийство достаточно сложно ну уснула и захлебнулась в ванной. Только при вскрытии и детальном осмотре удалось его поймать!
Да и ещё про страх :) практически у всех с кем я имел дело этот страх приутствовал и только одна девушка так и не смогла его перебороть, но у неё вообще был страх перед водой, она ни когда не наполняла ванну боьше половины так как боялась уснуть и захлебнуться, после достаточно большого числа тренировок она перестала бояться полной ванны но вот погрузиться под воду так и не смогла.

Привет, народ!
Только что вычитал по теме (для разрядки обстановки)

Буратино частенько издевался над Герасимом. Наденет шкурку собаки, проберется в лодку, развалится на корме и орет «Ну топи, давай. Топи, глухое ничтожество..»

(DUNKERу респект и привет)

(сергей_киев @ 17.05.2006 - время: 12:31)(DUNKERу респект и привет) 
Взаимно Мы общались на других форумах? (Подозреваю, что могли на украинском, но ника такого я там не встречал )

В Питере был серийный убийца который подобным методом топил женщин в ванной резко дёргая за ноги когда те принимали ванну, понять что произошло убийство достаточно сложно ну уснула и захлебнулась в ванной. Только при вскрытии и детальном осмотре удалось его поймать!
Во-во. Про этот случай мне на НП и рассказали. И про следственный эксперимент, как подопытную откачивать пришлось.
Да и ещё про страх :) практически у всех с кем я имел дело этот страх приутствовал и только одна девушка так и не смогла его перебороть, но у неё вообще был страх перед водой, она ни когда не наполняла ванну боьше половины так как боялась уснуть и захлебнуться, после достаточно большого числа тренировок она перестала бояться полной ванны но вот погрузиться под воду так и не смогла.
У меня много таких знакомых, кто боится погружений с головой и/или глубины под ногами. В том числе моя жена. Результат того, что в детстве ее напугали. Иногда удавалось обмануть ее страх и завлечь на глубину, но когда она видела, где берег, страх возвращался. Мы прекратили эти эксперименты.

Вот я еще не практиковала это.Боюсь,что не смогу вовремя остановиться.А сидеть не хотца.

Интересный рассказ на английском. О реальных историях, участником или свидетелем которых был автор.

WATCHING
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I'm very much into all kinds of dunking games especially wrestling for fun with males against females and females against each other, and I also enjoy holding under water for long periods of time till the person under water is struggling and losing large amounts of air. Fantasy is good but the reality is always better.
I witnessed an amusing scene in a swimming pool when I was young where my friend was dunked and held under water for a long time by his mother and a friend of hers, as it was punishment for something though I can't remember what now as it was a long time ago.
Anyhow his mother who was quite good looking first dove in and swam to him, caught his arm, and with her other arm forced him under water and held him down for at least 20 seconds or so. After letting him up for just a second to catch a quick, much-needed gasp she forced him under again as her friend swam up to them, grasped his head and shoved it between her thighs while his mother sat on his back! They held him down for more than 30 seconds laughing the whole time and towards the end watching clouds of bubbles rise between the friend's thighs, and then when they finally let him surface for air they grinned as he was frantically gasping and coughing.
I found this aspect very arousing while in school when I spent every vacation at the swimming camp where we had a lot of boys versus girls fun after the daily training and though we didn't think about real sex the erotic feelings of touching the half-naked girl while holding her under, seeing her struggling for air and trying in vain to surface as she gushed bubbles, and letting her to do the same with you were really strong. Later I found that some girls felt the same about being held under water for a long time as forced breath holding is really arousing provided you know that it's just a game and you like the partner, as it's a sweet mix of risk, reasonable suffering and pleasure. I got confirmation of that idea later from some different girls and women, and I still like to play those games and get aroused if I see somebody playing them.
Last summer I travelled to the Black Sea in Bulgaria where I sat on a stone construction located in the water about 25 meters from the beach, casually watching the people on the beach, in particular a boy and two girls who were about twenty years old with slim bodies pressed into small bikinis. Soon they decided to get wet and swam right my direction, and about 5 meters from me they started to play game I'll never forget.
First the girls started to wickedly dunk the boy by repeatedly pushing him down by the shoulders, neck, with hands on his head, and then with legs on his shoulders pushing him even deeper, laughing while holding him under seeming not to care that he needed to breathe as lots of air bubbles appearing on the surface which made them laugh even more. The guy was gasping but smiling when they finally allowed him to surface for a huge much-needed gasp, so I guess he didn't mind being dunked by these fun loving females.
One girl swam away to the sea and the guy started to chat with the other one although they spoke Bulgarian which I didn't understand, but suddenly the guy grabbed the girl and started part two of the game which I named "Payback". It was really hard for the girl to pay "double price" as he dunked her several times for about 20 seconds each time then let her take a short breath and held her under water for over 40 seconds from behind with his arm around her neck and a hand firmly on top of her head, and I could see only some splashes of her hands on the surface and lots of bubbles as she desperately fought for air. After he allowed her to surface gasping but still smiling there was a little break for maybe half a minute, then told her something which I guessed to be "Now take a deep breath." He dunked her again and I suppose sat on her shoulders as I couldn't see properly what was going on, but then he released her and stopped her coming up for air by placing a firm hand on top of her head right near the surface and pushing her down again. The girl tried to get to the surface by swimming a bit away from him but he caught her again and wickedly denied her air second time! I don't know whether she managed to gulp a breath the third time though I very much doubt it as I watched the guy grinning as lots of bubbles burst to the surface.
I thought the guy had lost his mind when he continued to sadistically hold her under water and got ready to dive to help her as I saw even more bubbles appear on the surface, but at that point he dragged her to the surface wide eyed and frantically gasping having kept her under water and deprived of air for over a minute and a half. I expected her to be very angry, but he told her something with a smile and in a few seconds she smiled back to him and they embraced in a deep kiss.
The second girl had meanwhile come near the beach and was standing up to her neck in the water near to the couple, which was her mistake because she received all the revenge that her girlfriend could muster for all the suffering she got from her boyfriend. I was the witness to an excellent catfight which I would called "Lesson," where the teacher was almost always on the top of the pupil with splashes, long hair, and fit, tanned bodies wrestling each other. It was an unforgettable sight!
Once being held underwater the "pupil" girl showed her perfect legs and beautiful shaped ass that "teacher" girl playfully slapped several times, and then "teacher" applied the same technique that she got from her boyfriend, twice giving the other girl the chance to reach the surface and twice denying it at the last moment. It seemed to me they were experienced in this game as like the "teacher" the "pupil" was wickedly kept under water and denied air for over a minute and a half, the surface foaming with her bubbles as her lungs completely emptied. Like her boyfriend the "teacher" sadistically held the "pupil under water for another ten seconds before dragging her to the surface, grinning as she frantically gasped air into her starved and aching lungs.
The three then moved to the beach where they sat drinking Cola, and after about half an hour they all left together chatting and laughing and I didn't see them any more, which was a pity as I hoped they were going to get back in the water and indulge in another wicked dunking session.
Talking of the Black Sea I had another experience down there when I met a beautiful girl at the beach who was a good swimmer and dancer as well, and we went together to the disco located right at the beach where after another glass of wine she suggested we go swimming which sounded a great idea.
We were both a little drunk and as the beach was empty she took off all her clothes before running to the water, closely followed by me who incidentally was now as naked as she was. In the water she started to splash me and I was pretending that I didn't want to get my hair wet, so she reacted my provocation and finally got closer to me to push me down by her hands on my shoulders, and surprisingly pushed me even deeper by using her legs.
When I surfaced she was laughing and said, "I think your hair is still not wet enough. Besides I like horseriding in the water." She swam to me from behind and wrapped her legs around me, making me very happy as I felt her warm young body and tits on my back, her hands wrapping around my neck to swiftly plunge me under water again. I felt very excited because I knew she wasn't going to get off me and the only thing I could do was to swim slowly to the shallow water, holding my breath as she gleefully held me under water so that I was kept submerged for over a minute until I felt the bottom.
It was time for payback and after she tried to swim away from me I got on the top of her and dunked her several times, noting that after each dunk she surfaced smiling and laughing. I decided to add a little gasping in our game and started to hold her under by my hands on her head and shoulder, keeping her down for over minute till she started to struggle and lose a small amount of air. When she surfaced with her mouth wide open expecting to take a deep breath she got my lips and the salt wet kiss instead, depriving her of air for another thirty seconds till she was struggling and emitting muffled pleas for breath. When I finally allowed her to take a huge, much-needed gasp my cock was very hard pushing her in her belly, so she put her hand on it and I could see the lights in her eyes which told me that she was more than ready to go much further. I pushed her under water again and felt the unforgettable warmness of her mouth on my cock, keeping my hand firmly on her head to hold her down and make sure she got a good long session of cock sucking. Once bubbles started to gush from her mouth round my cock I let her up to gratefully gasp for air. her legs eagerly wrapping around me as I slid easily into her warm body.
We made love like that, sometimes at the surface and sometimes submerged till she shook her head with an urgent need to breathe, then finally exploded together beneath the surface in a huge cloud of bubbles followed by a frantic kick to the surface to refill our empty lungs.
That night was like a fairy tale and I would wish I could have had a video like that to relive the experience with that young lady over and over again.
Many years ago I was working on a farm in Central Europe with young people of many nationalities. A mountain stream flowed into a pond and out again continually changing the water so we made the pond into a swimming-pool by cleaning it out and laying a plank platform on one side, and as the weather was hot and the work hard we were all in and out of the pool all day with much splashing and dunking.
On one occasion I picked up one of the girls, Leni, small, plump, with waist-length yellow hair in a thick plait coiled up on top of her head, and tumbled her in head-first over my shoulder. She shrieked as she felt herself going and when she came up she was furious, not because she minded being ducked but because it would take hours to get her hair dry as there were no hair-dryers there. She decided though that since it was wet anyway she might as well enjoy herself and I was forgiven after she'd half-drowned me and everyone else she could get hold of, while we managed to take out the clips that held her plait on top of her head and with each dunking her hair got looser till it was completely free and hanging down in a shining golden cape. She looked gorgeous!
After that whenever she was in the pool we did that to her and also found that when we back- somersaulted her she came up completely smothered in wet hair so was even easier to duck, till she learned the trick of putting her head back as she came up so that her face emerged clear and I wished I'd had an underwater camera as she also looked wonderful swimming underwater with her hair streaming out behind her.
Mitzi, one of the local girls had a younger brother and sister aged about 10, and one Sunday she was trying to teach them to dive in. They weren't doing it right so she went to the edge and poised, arms upraised, to show them how to stand and then she started to squeal as she'd just come back from church, was wearing high-heeled shoes, and because most of the time she went barefoot, she'd lost her balance. It all happened in slow-motion as she gradually toppled forward still squealing and eventually did a perfect ""statue-dive"", the bright gold shoes the last part of her to disappear under the surface. Like Leni though once she was wet she stayed in bobbing up laughing then kicking off her shoes and wriggling out of her dress underwater, as they wore very respectable undies at that time. She made the twins dive for her shoes though, which was only fair.
Usually though she really put them through it in the water by throwing them in and dunking them, but one Sunday afternoon they got their revenge and half drowned her.
Mitzi was lying on the side of the pool dozing in the sun when they signed to us to keep quiet and crept up to her, then rolled her over the edge so that she was underwater before she woke up! They jumped in on top of her to roll her over and over every way underwater, let her up for a quick gasp of air, then held her under properly. After only a few seconds though great eruptions of bubbles came up and she was thrashing about wildly while the twins were shrieking with laughter as they were tickling her and she was obviously very ticklish! Of course everyone cheered them on but eventually we rescued her because the twins were still gleefully holding her under and we knew she must have been close to the point of drowning, although after that she was much kinder to the twins and provided much more fun for the rest of us now we knew exactly what to do to her once we got her under water. Happy days !
I wonder where all those girls are now ? Leni and Mitzi will be middle-aged like me and I wonder if they still play in the water like they did then ? No reason why they shouldn't but I notice so many other people give up on fun very early in life although I never have!
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окончание рассказа

While I was working on that farm with the other young people I had a valuable lesson in water- safety. At week-ends we sometimes went in a lorry to swim in a local lake and on this occasion we were playing a game in the water, standing in pairs in a big circle up to breast-deep on the smaller girls and passing a football around, the idea being to prevent your partner from getting it so there was much leaping about, squealing and splashing. Eventually the ball fell in the middle of the circle so everyone piled on top of it and each other, high pitched gurgles coming from some of the girls as their heads were plunged under water, their open mouths filled, and huge bursts of bubbles streamed out of them.
When the ball bobbed up everyone thrashed off after it, although one of the girls came up, screamed loudly and sank again, though as she was always a very noisy extrovert type we didn't immediately take any notice as we knew she could swim and anyway she was only in about four feet of water. She screamed even more next time she came up though and waved her arms about so I thought she might have been hurt, perhaps accidentally kicked in the scrimmage, so a couple of us went over to her as she'd sunk again by then and didn't surface immediately. When she next appeared she was in real hysterics, and it took three of us to control her and get her to the shore only a few yards away where she gradually calmed down as we asked her if she was hurt.
"Not hurt - not hurt" was all she could say at first, but then eventually she said "I go under the water. "
"But you can swim and it was shallow . You could have stood up."
"I am afraid to go under the water." she answered, " When I go under I forget I can swim. I not think to stand up. I was too much afraid." If we hadn't been there she'd have drowned in four feet of water even though she could swim !
Since then I've come across many other people of all ages who were like her and can swim but are terrified of going under. I teach swimming, mainly to frightened beginners, and the very first thing is to get them happy about going under which is the only way will they ever be safe in the water, or be able to have any fun.
Last month was in a public swimming pool and saw a "show" that really turned me on, provided by two athletic guys aged about twenty five who were playing with pretty, black haired, girl of about twenty whose shapely body was squeezed into a black bikini. I don't know when they started to play but I observed this game for twenty minutes and I think that most of this time the girl spent underwater being repeatedly dunked and held by them, as there were a few people in the pool and they seemed to feel really comfortable.
The girl was smiling, splashing them, and trying to push them down when she could although sometimes they seemed to be really cruel by having a talk, and making a jokes to each other while holding her under for a really long time until there were lots of air bubbles appearing on the surface.
A couple of times she tried to swim away from them while splashing them with her legs but they were faster and stronger and reached her quickly to wickedly make her to pay for the escape, and about three or four times she surfaced coughing and gasping for air and asked them to stop. They just laughed at her and continued dunking her, sometimes allowing her a short pause to get her breath back for the next session of underwater torture.
I was amazed that during all this action she kept the up the playful mood and remained smiling even underwater except for the times when they sadistically held her under too long, whereupon her face would screw up with the agony of needing to breathe and she would send up gurgled pleas for air and mercy. Never once did she cry or shout as I observed all the action from different angles, from above and underwater, and one thing I remember was when one of them wrapped his legs around her waist while holding her under and the other put his hand on her head to push her even deeper.
This was one of the times I dropped under water to watch her desperately thrashing and kicking wildly as her lungs completely emptied, the guys gleefully holding her down for at least another ten seconds before allowing her to burst to the surface where water sprayed out of her mouth and she frantically gasped huge, much-needed breaths.
Once again it was a great pity I did not have a video camera with me to record this incredible action.

Сайт девушки увлекающейся реальным фридайвингом, а также практикующий бондаж, сочетание взрывоопасное, кстати, реально она выдерживает под водой 4 мин., есть видео. А кстати пишет, что увеличила это время до 6 мин.


Аквиа

(Dunker @ 25.05.2006 - время: 07:44) Интересный рассказ на английском. О реальных историях, участником или свидетелем которых был автор.


Прочитал с неослабевающим интересом..

(karandash2014 @ 05.06.2006 - время: 22:15)Сайт девушки увлекающейся реальным фридайвингом, а также практикующий бондаж, сочетание взрывоопасное, кстати, реально она выдерживает под водой 4 мин., есть видео. А кстати пишет, что увеличила это время до 6 мин.

Я знаю этот сайт, но не захожу почти - девушки в резине не в моем вкусе, я больше купальники люблю Эта девушка - модель, и о ее безопасности, думаю, есть кому позаботиться. Я разговаривал с одним молодым человеком, так он играет в одиночку, бондажирует и топит себя в ванной, вот то, что он с собой вытворяет, взрывоопасно...

(Dunker @ 07.06.2006 - время: 10:41) (karandash2014 @ 05.06.2006 - время: 22:15)Сайт девушки увлекающейся реальным фридайвингом, а также практикующий бондаж, сочетание взрывоопасное, кстати, реально она выдерживает под водой 4 мин., есть видео. А кстати пишет, что увеличила это время до 6 мин.

Я знаю этот сайт, но не захожу почти - девушки в резине не в моем вкусе, я больше купальники люблю Эта девушка - модель, и о ее безопасности, думаю, есть кому позаботиться. Я разговаривал с одним молодым человеком, так он играет в одиночку, бондажирует и топит себя в ванной, вот то, что он с собой вытворяет, взрывоопасно...
Не будем спорить , коллега! У каждого свой вкус, кто-то любит арбуз, а кто-то девушек в резине под водой. А на сайте у АквиаГерл есть действительно классные фотографии, особенно интересно посмотреть видеофрагменты. А фирменный стиль - это заполненная водой маска и под ней открытые глаза. Впечатляет!

(Dunker @ 07.06.2006 - время: 10:41) Я разговаривал с одним молодым человеком, так он играет в одиночку, бондажирует и топит себя в ванной, вот то, что он с собой вытворяет, взрывоопасно...
Действительно экстремально! У меня был знакомый увлекающейся самосвязыванием, иногда приходилось его доставать из его же обвязки! :)

Последний вздох перед глубоким погружением.....

Народ, привет!
Я сам топлением не увлекаюсь особо, но из чувства солидарности и уважения к вам, помещу пару ссылок на сайты по теме акваэротики (все работают и вроде неплохие)


https://www.geocities.com/aquafriend_de/aquafriends.html

https://www.aquatapes.com/

https://www.aquafan.com/

https://www.geocities.com/hotdiver_site/

https://www.uwlvr.org/

https://www.uwfotoart.de/


для девушек :
https://menunderwater.com/


+ сайт (нужен японский шрифт, я просто мышкой туда-сюда клацал, кое-какие картинки были)
https://www.h3.dion.ne.jp/~ndolphin/uminya/link.htm


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З.Ы. Светкин!!!! Саблю в ножны!!! пост не удалять, так как сама ранее разместила ссылку на сайт WATERBONDAGE

Перенес сюда цитату из соседнего топика:
(Faust13 @ 20.06.2006 - время: 10:01) (Dunker @ 19.06.2006 - время: 10:16) Почти не освещался на форуме еще один вид игр с дыханием - сдерживание дыхания по приказу, как испытание. Можно приказывать нижней совершить какое-нибудь действие, задержав дыхание, и наказывать, если не справится. Кто-нибудь такое практикует? Для меня такие игры представляют интерес. Об одном варианте игры я писал в теме "Топление" (счет вслух числа погружений)
Забыл вам ответить в топике про топление! Я применял несколько другой метод но смысл практически похожий! Нижний после выныривания зачитывает страницу текста, на это отводиться определённое время. Нельзя ошибаться за что следует наказание. Обычно я для этого дела беру длинное стихотворение.
Другой вариант это когда при выныривании на тело поподает капающий воск заставляя нижнего нырнуть обратно подводу

Отличные идеи

Dunker реализованных на практике идей у меня полно занимаюсь топлением гдето с 1998 года
Так что спрашивайте, идей полно